There you go. The truly irrational. Im not saying Bitcoin is the saviour of USD imperialism. This is the best post on this entire comment thread. Bitcoin is a universal currency and is not here to just replace your USD alone! So theres a positive feedback loop here. Some of them have no earnings at all. This financial libertarian streak is at the core of Bitcoin, and youll hear echoes of that sentiment in all the pro-crypto blogs and podcasts. In short, historically gold is the truest measure of value, the safest store of wealth, and best insurance against fiat money and other manias (see Weimar Republic circa 1934). Anyway, to your other point, the main beneficiaries of this bubble are the exchanges. Right now a nascent currency like Bitcoin is not able to handle the transactions in a similar fashion due to limited bandwidth, and people like you point that out and say, look it cannot even handle the current level of transactions how is this thing going to replace Visa or MasterCard? January 4, 2018, 7:42 am. That's right -- it really does not matter (to me) why they split up. pre-construction Toronto condos will generate cashflow as soon as construction has been completed, If bitcoin is a bubble, should we short it? Until the price of bitcoin (any of the crypto currencies) achieves some semblance of stability, they will fail to be good mediums of exchange. Understanding the motivation is a big part of understanding Bitcoin. As the market cap of cryptocurrencies grow, the volatility as a percent will decrease. You have failed to separate the technology from specific implementations. Ms99to1percent What usually happens when this occurs? I think that gold is nothing special its a shiny rock. I'm a software engineer and my career was in cryptography and network security. Its inevitable as brick and mortar banks and finance will become extinct! Its clear from reading the comments that most people dont understand how this works. The unbanked people can hold actual coins in their hands, but they cannot trade in cryptocurrency at all. There is already ways to pay and use your crypto currencies and companies like request.network are working on ways facilitate swapping with cryptos and fiat using oracles and smart contracts on the ethereum network. Your highly emotional responses arent helping your case. Hey MMM, how do you plan to stop speculation, why might it be necessary to do so? EvoInvestor Im more inclined to trust contracts that cannot be broken. Furthermore, I would like to emphasize that for Bitcoin (used here to refer to generic cyrptocurrencies) to become useful in an everyday sense, I would never need to change out of Bitcoin and into another currency, such as USD. MMM tries to give some hints as to the reasoning and also that they try to be . I dare you to look it up! What scared me away was basically the energy costs of mining, and knowing that, even if cryptos became huge, there was no reason Bitcoin in particular would have have any value in excess of the electricity that I spent to get it. How much do you have invested in BTC? Theres illegal activity in all its shapes and forms (ie. Governments have no choice here. It has now grown quite a bit, of course. January 15, 2018, 11:44 am. Bitcoin has just 200 billion capitalization currently. I saw a few currencies try out Proof of Stake, like Ark, where the holders of the currency choose who they want to do the mining. Scrypt based coins like litecoin also have ASICs for them already, the L3+. Is this likely to be worth $20,000 long term? That is why our civilization used that rather than perishables or iron. Its like saying they are investing in lottery tickets. It is also an opportunity to get the 2 Billion unbanked people on the planet to also enjoy a level playing field through this new Internet of Money. Assuming you can know the exact price of a commodity on a given day is speculative, yes. Spot on VIJAY. Real currency ATMs is it funny to watch people withdraw cash to fund their drinking problem. Most people cant afford to drop huge amounts in crypto at one time, so you have college kids paying $2-3 every week buying $50 worth of BTC. MentalArson I agree this is a subpar post on MMM, and I am sad to see that he doesnt yet get it when it comes to decentralized currency networks. Like every state currency, it derives its worth out of the fact that the state says you can *always* pay your taxes with it (and that shops have to accept it). Mining other coins can still be profitable with graphics cards, mainly ETH/ETC. Liquidity is very low, which tends to drive prices up or down quickly, and lead to very high market capitalization despite relatively little money being injected. People suffer immensely. January 3, 2018, 12:22 pm. Something a step up from bitcoin t-shirts but nothing too risky. No one is suggesting that investing in mining is a good idea. January 5, 2018, 8:26 am. I argue that fiat currency is inefficient because its supply is always increasing. Bitcoin could also be the TCP/IP and will probably be the world standard in 10 years! Mark states he has done this study with no references to any data as to how he arrived at such a conclusion. So just relax, lean into it, and grow rich with me. There are other points that I cant think of right now. This is because society is nothing but an abstract grouping of individuals. VTSAX returned over 22% last year. Also, a currency should not be artificially sparse. Bitcoin/Ethereum mixers. As a result, I have cashed out on their misfortune. If a good provides value to just one person without hurting anyone else, then it provides value to society. Every currency has something behind it. However, since more USD would automagically exist, USD becomes less valuable (this is inflation its like stealing a little bit of USD from anyone with cash positions). Those Adults you referred to in your article had the trust and lost it with their actions. So Im going with no. As the people in Greece and Iceland found out, along with people in many other countries. Im only a mediocre computer scientist. If I am able to speculate successfully and retire sooner, I would hope that the other Mustachians would cheer me on. Im not going to break the bank, but it sure is fun to be part of giving the world the choice to trust the network when the human institutions have failed. It is happening, slowly but none the less all three of your issues should be gone within 5 years). He or she still determines the current market price. Ive been investing steadily over a 20 year period. I agree with some parts of this article and this some parts are a bit ridiculous. Looks like I made a big mistake then. That is when we are talking equality and progress for all! January 3, 2018, 4:34 am, Dont plan on investing in cryptocurrency. This separation is important becausethe usefulness of Blockchain is the primary justification people use for the big dumb Bitcoin lottery. But anyway.you need a little imagination to see the value it has for the first world, because it has to arise from something other than a replacement for something preexisting. I hope it wasn't, but as he said in the article, it's none of our damn business. Faster and cheaper transactions (improvements are being made, Lightning network), Stable value (futures actually help volatility. I think getting out with $500,000 would be a great thing, but then that would be an enormous amount of money for me. Even if youre the only one doing it. https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?HashingPower=190&HashingUnit=MH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=1293&CostPerkWh=0.12, Matt Stephenson Because if youre going to be an evangelist for anything, it needs to be purely based on the underlying merits, not what you hope it will do for your personal fortune. I also invested in a bitcoin two years ago, and paid off all my debt with it. This article seems ranty/irrational. This instability just further proves that it would make a terrible currency and a recent study reveals that about, Mr. Money Mustache. Trust IS the value of Bitcoin. Moneymeister 16-02-2023 WIDM 2023: mijn mening en verdenkingen tot nu toe. My heart would break if I said goodbye to $200k. Hopefully someone else will go through this in 2023 and fill us in on the value then. There are literally centuries worth of data on the gold price and it is remarkably stable against all other commodities (and paper assets) over long stretches of time because of math and physics. That is something very valuable just like stocks are. If people are creating an bubble out of it, people is stupid, not bitcoin. Change the company name to include the word blockchain, and explain that youre pivoting from [USEFUL_WIDGET] to exploration of and investment in opportunities that leverage the benefits of blockchain technology. Would yours? Im not sure there is suggestion from MMM that cryptocurrencies are fraudulent or indeed even a scam. You could recreate your AAPL stocks again if you want and still keep the rest in GBTC? MMM, Internet has pretty much destroyed every industry it has pitted against. Not saying thats why he wrote the article, but just that there are certain advantages to being an Internet Celebrity, one of which is that everything you write turns to gold, er, uh, bitcoin, er, uh, whatever. While cryptos are new, they also dont meet the needs of traditional cash flow analysis but for a new asset class but just because its new doesnt mean its a bad idea. A boy named Sue Fiat currency has neither. I am smiling because Im content to let others gamble. Woodser I have done this, and Bitcoin has a carbon footprint which is about 500-30,000 times larger than the US dollar. Agree, the valuation of these cryptocurrencies are out of whack. Complaints and insults generally wont make the cut here, but by all means write them on your own blog! All Rights Reserved |, 95% of even the trading volume is fraudulent, Bitcoin: the Worlds First Decentralized Ponzi Scheme, the Problem with calling Bitcoin a Ponzi Scheme, How to Give Money (and Get Happiness) More Easily. And yet this is exactly whats happening with Bitcoin. If I buy and hold a share of S&P500 ETF for the rest of my life, I will earn back the share price in quarterly dividends eventually. I reply, if its gotten that bad, I dont want to live in that world anyway. MissSaraBee MMM has clearly thought about this more than most, however I think people would need to read more than this post to completely dismiss that a current crypto will have long term value. Yes, you can buy index funds with fiat money and not with Bitcoin. January 2, 2018, 9:45 pm. Do I trust the people at the federal reserve that helped cause the 2008 crash and didnt call it beforehand? So, I use bitcoin to buy stuff with the gift cards from these people. https://www.statista.com/statistics/326707/bitcoin-price-index/. If you think you are hardcore enough to handle Maximum Mustache, feel free to start at the first article and read your way up to the present using the links at the bottom of each article. Imagine he same concept but at least an old beta max has some residual value if you still own tapes, Another great comparison. I couldnt find anything indicating countries are using bitcoin as a reserve currency. The cost savings from implementing everything on immutable ledgers has significant cost savings and automation of processes which is why there is so much speculation. There are many prices where gold or tulips are a totally rational purchase. With BTC, how would a nation function and have institutions that protect its people? Even a significant percentage would be really stupid. If you introduced a brand new commodity to the world, would you expect the price to be stable? The value of bitcoin is very far removed from any sensible fundamental valuation, and the thing driving up the price seems to be a common sense that it will be worth more in the future. Please please please get out of that fund and invest it all in a low fee index fund! Mr. Money Mustache I for one am lucky enough to participate in the birthing of an alternative financial paradigm so that people have choices. I know you intentionally limit your exposure to news, but I did not realize that you were also living under a rock. January 11, 2018, 12:03 am. Cryptocurrencies are the key to humanitys survival. it is as simple as that. The water can be stored behind a dam for weeks, months, sometimes *years* if the dam is big enough. I would like to learn more about the world of paid website commentators/shills. Not likely, bitcoin mining farms are in China because of the cheaper energy costs. Personally, I am out of Bitcoin because it is no longer useful to me. On the other hand, some items such as historical art, with no intrinsic value other than emotional attachment, can be worth millions. Episode 497: Why Bitcoin is Stupid - 2 by Mr. Money Mustache. Bond *prices* are higher than ever today, which is the reciprocal of them having a high yield. As a real world comparison, I quote this nifty piece from a reader named The Unassuming Banker: Now imagine that the same person also created a product called Cancer-Pill using their own instructions, trade marked it, and started selling it to the highest bidders. Seems to Petes point, theres an awful lot of marketing push behind something that has dubious use cases and limited long term value. I dont think attacking how Bitcoin is being used is a good argument because of this. It is when stock prices stay the same in nominal terms but everything else rises in price around them, effectively masking the very real stock market crash through inflation. Hell if I believed that I would work my ass of taking EVERYTHING I could and putting it into cryptos! Bitcoin is mined using ASICs, not nVidias graphics cards. (Or computers or spaceships.) And you dont want it for this purpose anyway after all, do you currentlyhide your money in offshore tax havens and transact your business on black markets? After all, you could make the same argument about Mr. Money Mustache's fingernail clippings: they may have no intrinsic value, but at least they are in limited supply so let's use them as the new world currency! While silver and copper has been used as a form of money (notably imperial China, it was a silver based society with gold used as a high currency), golds special attributes has always been seen as a form of value storage and trusted trade medium. I dont know, why gold and not platinum or palladium? The FIRE movement continues to ignore #Bitcoin as an uncorrelated, rapidly emerging global asset class #whyFIREsucks. I do believe blockchain technology and people like Charles Hoskinson and ADA are interested in uses beyond money grabs. The growing demand for more electricity is the most serious issue with Bitcoin, IMO. First: cryptocurrencies have not demonstrated lack of manipulation. Which is fine, but this trust-less nature of Bitcoin is what the early adopters valued. Some make the argument that blockchain on its own has some merits that may be so. Great article! In order to have decentralization, there needs to be an incentive for people to commit resources to running the network. Also, what is the source of that study? The worlds governments are not going to let everyone start trading money anonymously and evading taxes using Bitcoin. Its a complete rip off. January 2, 2018, 5:44 pm. For this article, I have set the bar much lower to show you the religious conviction that crypto speculators have. Hence, he advocates value investing not speculation. This is what is known as " The 4% Rule ". For casual observers, make sure you set the hashrate to the correct value (some defaults appear incorrect to me).. and remember that the reward of these cryptocurrencies goes down rapidly the hash puzzles become more difficult and the Bitcoin reward for each puzzle drops. Its definitely useful for me to hear opposing views though and Im hungry for intelligent people to discuss it. January 3, 2018, 12:17 pm, The last 10% of possible wins are better left to the idiots. Bro, we get ityou want to wipe your butt with germ-infested cash. Guys. Even if you win some money through dumb luck, you have lost some time and life energy, which means you have lost. and we live in the middle of it. I always remember one sound arguments on investing that goes something like if they need to over explain the product and their business model, then Im not buying it.. That is bullshit written on toilet paper by a Private Bank called the Federal Reserve, owned by unscrupulous bunch of elites like your JP Morgan. Poor people have never initiated a tax loophole. If so, congratulations. Tulips? You WILL be wrong. Not a repeatable strategy though, Im sure. In a practical sense, this . When the fiat currencies collapse next week, THIS will be worth more than all businesses, real estate, and human capital in the USA and Europe combined! So when I invest in bitcoin, Im not betting that itll replace dollars anytime soon. I dont see any other motive behind this article other than a biased effort to please someone, especially with the choice of words used like stupid, ridiculous, holy shit as if everyone who parked 700 billion on crypto belong to an alien species. Mr. Money Mustache is a thirty-something retiree who now writes about how we can all live a frugal, yet awesome, life of leisure. If youre in cryptos early, that difference skyrockets in favor of cryptos. This is exactly what happened in the 1970s: The nominal price of stocks remained roughly the same while their effective purchasing power was cut more than in half, eventually prices will come back up. Theres nothing fraudulent about Bitcoin its mass hysteria driving demand. The only reason you would be staying in is that you would hopefully still be able to find a bigger sucker when you finally do unload. Im not saying to build a bunker or anything but just diversify your portfolio for different economic times. Id love to see MMM fingernail futures one day on my ticker chart. He is typing in capital letters to draw attention to specific words. January 3, 2018, 4:28 pm. Why the hell would you have an intermediary like that when buying bitcoins? Im not an IT guy of engineer so I could be wrong, but the energy issue and the safety issues you mention makes Bitcoin tera incognito for all intelligent human beings. Gold has always been considered a commodity of high value. 2) lots of other things are used as a store of value (paintings, etc) Ryan Thomas Like my double comment? Again, as this chart shows, stocks, priced in gold, are still down about 60% from their peak in 1999: We probably have another few years of stocks going down in terms of gold before they bottom out and a new stock bull market (in real terms) resumes once again. Thats what happens when a real bonafide bubble bursts. Bookmarking this post, cant wait to come back in a year, or heck, a few years, when Bitcoin IS over 100k. MMM, you cannot call Bitcoin Stupid and then go tangentially into an Utopian discourse. Soon, they will be on the brink of bankruptcy and you will be able to purchase all of their stuff at a discount. So we need more credible people to speak out against it. However, governments and institutions are investigating the uses of some platforms, like Ethereum: https://globalnews.ca/news/3977745/ethereum-blockchain-canada-nrc/. To call gold a non-productive asset misses the point entirely. Hi Financialindependence.. January 3, 2018, 5:48 am. Because I advocate something, I am not raving Mad! Nope I am not a skeptic, and also since I was there then (with pre-internet BBS). And likewise you can scratch off the idea of any government backed cryptos, because those are by definition centralized. At the present time, stock index funds are priced more irrationally and speculatively high than gold is. Max Your Freedom But I did put about $600 in Bitcoin over a year ago. The real test of if you should be a cryptocurrency supporter:would you be exactly as passionate and spend the same amount of time thinking about it,if Bitcoin were still an obscure piece of code, worth less than one cent, and offered no chance of ever earning you any money? Thanks for saying this MMM! About half a trillion dollars worth of gnashing and rending. And if YOU had bought my fingernails halfway through this article at $100 instead of waiting until they were $70,000, you would be a paper millionaire too! They saw value in it very early. But maybe an iteration of that will be. Last May, when I announced I had inked a deal with Harriman House to publish my new book, Pathfinders, I invited those of you who had embraced The Simple Path to Wealth to share your stories. Or stay in touch with them because they might become millionaires? Secrecy and hoarding will grow exponentially and the wealth gap will become staggeringly wide. Missing the forest for the trees kind of thing. All they can do is to ban and stop the exchanges. Jeremy Collins Are you for real? I totally agree. MMM deservedly makes a fortune off this website, and stirring the Bitcoin pot will surely drive more traffic to keep blog profits rolling in. So my question becomes If you want to trade in crypto currency, have you been trading in Yen or Rubles or Pesos?. Nothing wrong with speculation, as long as you are doing so responsibly and understand the risks. Absolutely, so Ill proceed with it. Because it is. I even read about these things for fun, with Simon Singhs The Code Book and the Neil Stephenson novel Cryptonomicon being particularly fun shortcuts to pick up some of the workings and the context of cryptography. January 2, 2018, 6:23 pm. Whatever they are willing to pay to enjoy owning these things themselves is their business, and may make for a fairly rational purchase. Do you have any stats to share? A timeline in yearsmy probability calculator says 99% or better that youll lose money, possibly all of it, if you hang on for years. There is no opportunity for them here, but I do appreciate your expression of goodwill towards others and humanitarian leanings (misguided though they are in this specific instance.). Vijay, what MMM is saying is that cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin cannot presently operate as currencies. Since when was that a down year? Reward for Risk is worse for Powerball. Under certain tax-related assumptions dividend policy is irrelevant to the value of a firm says one of the Modigliani Miller theorems. These units run circles around the baddest gaming PC with 6 graphics cards in terms of performance, but they are noisy and not a good room heater for anyone with Ok hearing. Also, USD is not the only fiat in this world, although many Americans cannot see anything beyond that in their puny little shells that they develop and stay in such as yourself! Consensus over its value. He pulled this off by living on a small percentage of his income as a software engineer, and diligently . You will be amazed at the rate at which internet connection is going up in the poorest of countries. Warren Buffett explained the difference between investing in Bitcoin versus in Coca-Cola was what cemented it for me. Without that money is worthless as a store of value, which also makes it worthless as a long term stable median of exchange. In 2018 and 2019, expect the speculation to subside as more tokenomics becomes important for valuations. Are you saying wisened mustachians own no stock or ETF of any tobacco companies? Cryptos appear to be the latest mania and in its current form will most certainly suffer the fate of the other manias that have happened in the past. Probably. . Investors who valued Apple and Microsoft and rich now and that is not because they spotted a Ponzi scheme. Im a regular reader and respect your opinion. Secondly, Governments are (by definition) other people, spending other peoples money on what other people tell them are other peoples problems often they screw up fiat currencies through simple incompetence they have no motivation to get it right. You are right in one sense, this is one use you could put your fiat paper money to where Bitcoin cannot help! Me personally, Im betting on the buck. I agree with you, Chris. When the common person does it, it can cause very big problems. Not only stocks, but real estate and bonds are expensive as well. Im patiently watching on the sideline to see how this is going to pan out. If you were setting up your portfolio from scratch today, would you buy $500K of GBTC with it? I promise you, the US Government is knees deep in the blockchain and is monitoring everything. Plus the addiction and how crypto has started to drain people of their savings and life. Rick Gardner I have shown from above that their is value in digital currencies. But coincidentally, after I got my computer engineering degree I ended up specializing in security and encryption technologies for most of my career. When you have a more efficient and fluid system that has zero manipulation from individuals, who will go back to a corrupt and manipulative system as it exists today? :), https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/941500121564332032, farmecologist Mr. Frugal Toque I just dont understand the new economy. It isnt enough to live off of, but its definitely nice to have a net $500 or so in my pocket at the end of each month. You will also have to pay a fee to transfer from the exchange to your wallet. January 2, 2018, 5:54 pm. Lets be frank. Perhaps its the utter lack of any regulation that baffles me, because blockchain I do kinda get, which is why I did put some money into IBM (yes, very un-Mustachian) after reading about their auto-encryption developments and its applicability in protecting personal info and consumer data. Yet, the banking system has been around for hundreds of years and I dont see it disappearing into the sunset anytime soon. China is also a leader in renewables space. Lastly if you still are convinced that your fingernails and bitcoins are synonymous then you may want to contact the Chicago mercantile exchange (CME) or the CBOE as they both recently added bitcoin futures contracts for investors. Read your history, it happens occasionally. Look at Cardano for example, they are building blockchain with built in treasury and KYC/AML endpoints. I started laughing and said he should take his profits and move on because this will not end well, although inevitably many people will be left holding the bag. Vijay What ICO do you own? The question is if one is worth $15k? Blockchain is just a computer protocol, which allows two people (or machines) to do transactions even if they dont trust each other or the network between them. If he was suggesting Bonds or FOREX trading you could accuse him of investing in fiat. That is why I also invest in government bonds. Oh my gosh, get out! 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