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Along with the Pagan babies does anyone remember selling books of small stamps people could use on envelopes? . The Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii) Jason Woycke 9 subscribers Subscribe 62 Share 2.2K views 5 years ago A compilation of live footage of the Pagan Babies (the band from Hawaii). For a baby girl, Sister always pushed us to choose Mary something - Mary Beth, Mary Alice, Mary Margaret, Mary Catherine, Mary Jane, whatever. Here a pagan ; there a pagan . . Of course, we collected money in the little paper boxes " for the missions" and I seem to remember something about either the school or each class "adopting"one of the mission children. In A.D. 381, the early Church Fathers wrote in the Nicene Creed, "We believe in one baptism for the forgiveness of sins.". A friend of mine, from back in the 80s, played guitar in a band with that name (weird thing about that is, hes Jewish). Lord, LordCatholic schools. Then we got a certificate and the children got a medal. (And I pitched them when I went to college) I had one round flat plastic silhouette of Mary that glowed after you held it under a lamp for a bit. Once the amount was reached, all the names were added to the blackboard and we voted. My Catholic neighborhood friends and I would have a carnival like MD carnivals sponsored by Jerry Lewis. And yet sometimes the answer was as simple as getting down on hands and knees to join the woman scrubbing the floor, to learn her technique and listen to her story. Each in his or her own way has been a missionary of the Gospel of Christ. Campbell, now retired from the film industry where he worked as a technician, told CNY that hed been enrolled in the Holy Childhood Association since seventh grade and that he remembered adopting babies to get them baptized into the faith. So how many pagan babies did you sell in Brentwood ? I suspect that Patricia never named them after you , David . Boy , does all of that ring true to me ! Plot summary. Thanks for checking out my blog about my fathers WWII service on the PT boats. Give a Gift SubscriptionBless friends, family or clergy with a gift of the Register. Might make a nice story . He stood right in the middle of the group . catholic school 1978-1991. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, 5.00 together, we got to buy and name a pagan baby. Gotta laugh about it now. If they're actually disabled, they can file the application with the city to get a handicap spot installed. Im pretty sure it was the heavy sell on Pagan Babies and the strong emphasis on the fact that God doesnt like Protestants that caused me to first question the rigid authority of the Catholic Church. We wonder where those name choices really went . Yet, I wonder, if I had not saved those pagan babies, would I have had the confidence and motivation to go to Mexico? She was managing editor and co-author of Ascension Press bestselling Amazing Grace series. But, in fact, the entire program was rooted in a sense of solidarity and charity in the broadest understanding of the word. Patti and her husband, Mark, live in North Dakota where they raised their 10 children. Who could choose the most ridiculous name ? Fogogo to mention JUG for bad behavior- Justice Under God, also at St. Ignatius College Prep JMJ was replaced with AMGD all for the glory of God. There were milk cartons to hold the money. There is in the heart of every priest, and I hope in the heart of every Christian, the longing to be a missionary, to be a proclaimer of the good news to the ends of the earth, he said. Margaret Ann is a good respectable name . Diane, Im 34. We collected money (I think) for UNICEF but we didnt get to name anyone. Regardless of whether pagan babies have become personal, we should still pray for and support the spread of the Catholic faith in foreign lands and in our own. Pagan babies may have disappeared from collection boxes but they started showing up in our families. Commonweal's latest, delivered twice weekly. Thanks for the comment ! Each was presented with a medallion featuring a representation of the Papal Keys. Ah , yeah . Needless to say, Zachary stuck. Small world. Remember what he said? At least it didnt include the genocide of the indigenous population as it did here in CA when the Spaniard priests took on the mission of converting the Indians. We didnt know any better (though Church elders should have, but thats another story, isnt it?). What did they really think about it ? Each time I hope to combine for them the Holy Childhoods call of responsibility with the lessons I learned in Guaymas: the difference between pity and solidarity, the complexity of the global structures that create poverty and need, and the smallness of our efforts at making a difference. Th. Check out our pagan babies selection for the very best in unique or custom, handmade pieces from our shops. "I think they cost five dollars." One of my fellow employees is reading a book called Pagan Babies. Thanks for sharing that. The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. Never heard the term. I liked your PT post . But I remember that we did get certificates sent to us from the Society for the Propagation of the Faith with the babys name. Each classroom was given small cardboard collection boxes . 0 coins. That reflects a certain dignified sincerity on your part , I think . I will say, Im happy I went to catholic school. Somewhere in the beachhead dump of stuff I call a filing system I have an adoption certificate which states that our class rescued some poor benighted child from the toils of Satan. Thanks for your thoughtful comment . Despite its apparent condescending tone at times, it instilled a radical sense of urgency in children that we are responsible for one another.. I still say none of that money ever got beyond the archdiocese downtown , certificate or no certificate . . The assembly was buzzing . We were expected to sell subscriptions to our local Archdiocese newspaper when I went to elementary school. My mother wisely refrained from saying much about it. I do not remember the term pagan babies at all, although I remember the little paper boxes quite well. "I loved Pagan Babies. Id give my expected nickel or dime each week . Every month after the money was collected, a students name was randomlypicked out of a bag with the chosen name becoming the Pagan Baby of the Month. Certificates were horizontally displayed above the green & yellow cursive writing examples atop the blackborads. In fourth grade I was finally old enough to see the movies they showedwith shots of real lepers and starving children. It may speed things up . baptize it and give it the name we chose." . Sorry man , no money for you . Her latest books are What Would Monica Do? I was JUST telling my son about Pagan Babies when I was a little girl! Maybe the program was intended , at least partially , to teach us generosity . Pope Benedicts Resignation: Debate Continues 10 Years On, Example of Their Lives: 6 American Black Catholics Are on the Road to Sainthood, Ex-Cardinal McCarrick Asks for Dismissal of Sex Abuse Case Against Him, Citing Dementia, Albany Diocese Bans Latin Masses Following New Guidance From the Vatican, What Have the Jesuits Done About Rupnik? EDIT: On second thoughts, I think that was **not **an official school thing, but kids bringing in this charity appeal from their church thing. Someone nees to buy Charlie a shiny bike. I spent all my paper boy money." They wore full habits in the old style . The publics had no idea what we were talking about. Band Name!! Other Brookliners Remember Adopting Im glad youu got a kick out of it . The idea was to collect money from students , nickels and dimes , for charity . St. Paul noted that baptism replaces circumcision and circumcision was for infants. One time, in the 70s, at an intimate dinner party, we realized the room was filled with about half Catholics who attended Catholic school. "I loved the Pagan Babies! When our family moved to another part of Dearborn, we transferred to St Alphonsus parish, and I traded the blue jumper for a plaid one, and the beanie for Hush Puppy shoes. I thoroughly enjoy your posts. "I also had a Pagan Baby; I regret to say I haven't kept in touch with him." I named all my pagan babies after my cousin Karen, who had died at age 2. Patti Maguire Armstrong Patti Maguire Armstrong is host of the TV talk show Ladies of Another View and an award-winning author and journalist. Please log in to comment by clicking here, Darkness, Desolation Invite People to Draw Closer to God, Pope Says, El Arzobispo de San Juan Celebra la Misa de Nuestra Seora de la Divina Providencia, Powered by Creative Circle Media Solutions. Servant of God Mother Mary Lange and the Rich History of Black Catholic Religious Orders, Ukrainian Soldier Saved by Praying the Rosary, Priest Recounts, As We Forgive: Lenten Pastoral Note From Archbishop Samuel Aquila of Denver, A Lasting Trail of Light: The Witness of Pedro Ballester. Do Black Patent Leather Shoes Really Reflect Up? probably denoting how much money was collected. Along the way, in all the villages we passed through, there were people who were full of joy to see young people. Theres the priority. JMJwow, totally forgot about that. I think the whole pagan babies thing was to give us something concrete to hold onto, plus those certificates that we got and plus, of course, naming rights all in the name of raising money for the Churchs missionary work. Im sure thats where the money went. But Cary was caught . They projected slides of their missionary adventures onto the wall of the church hall . between boys and girls. That $5.00 bought you naming rights. To some of us Catholic school old-timers , pagan babies is a secret code , I guess, that gets us entry into some somewhat sardonic memories . All of this went out the window in my belief system a few years later, when i began to understand political realities, had a more sophisticated notion of the universe and got very tired of having philosophical questions answered by Its a mystery. My favorite question was: If God can do anything, can he create a rock so heavy he himself cannot lift it? Drawing its title from Hinckle's parochial education in San Francisco's Sunset District, "Ransoming Pagan Babies: The Selected Writings of Warren Hinckle" released by Berkeley nonprofit. Ransom a Pagan Baby (late 1950s). Pagan baby names continue to be popular name choices for many new parents. I pictured the dozens of Karens I had saved growing up safely somewhere in Africa. - Betty L. My most cherished reward for raising money for the missions was a Madonna-and-Child nightlight that graced my bedside table well into adolescence. . Remember JMJ ? Reading this article and all of the comments has brought tears to my eyes Im laughing so hard. Great mix of early US HC punk & the then emerging "Youth Crew" sound. That was the early sixties . Thanks for your input . This reading is starting to stir up memories of holy water, chapel caps, rosaries that lit up a green color in the bed at night, memorizing the Catechism in case the Arch-Bishop asked me a question at our Confirmation, being chosen to carry up the gifts, and on and on. They spoke for an hour and I think that every sentence they uttered had the word pagan in it . Students gave their allowances to save We thought up the stupidest , weirdest names we could manage and , as I remember, the teacher wrote that name on the box with the five dollars and it went off to the pagans . I cant remember now if they ever answered Charlies question . I remember those statues . You stir up a lot of old memories for me , too . When I was in second grade I ransomed my own pagan baby and named her Pauline Anne after St Theresas oldest sister. In my class at St. Amelias school in Tonawanda, NY, we collected nickels and dimes in a cigar box to buy a pagan baby. Glad that I could kick up some dust . We gave our allowances to save those babies. time, before cynicism and political correctness found their stride. Your class picked out a name for the child, and the Catholic church baptized the baby with that name into the Catholic faith. Theology should be at the heart of any Catholic university. Philadelphia 76ers Premier League UFC. Catholic mom and grandparents here. In the book, Pope Francis also addresses corruption at the Vatican, abuses committed by members of the Church, the COVID-19 pandemic, Russias invasion of Ukraine, among other topics. The rice they used was really good which I think defeated the purpose since a lot of kids looked forward to it, myself included. kids were allowed to give their baby a Christian name. My mother thought that those nuns were as close to God as we would ever get on earth. an Irish name?" I dont believe that UNICEF worries about saving souls. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. What memories. SubscribeStart your Register subscription today. Seems like 100 years ago , doesnt it ? I assume that all of the other Catholic schools in the archdiocese were doing the same thing . Some had a lot more than others. The poor pagan was already named Herman , right ? Sure would love to hear from anyone that remembers. Glad you enjoyed it . I told some Catholic friends about collecting money for Pagan Babies at Dover (Ohio) St. Josephs and they had never heard of such a thing but Im sure we did it. Its to raise money for the school , the salesman countered . But I was in the mist of all of the Catholic Truths and those truths just werent ringing true to me. Happy Fathers Day! Pagan Babies: and Other Catholic Memories. Yeah , a few days later . I think mine were 25 cent stamps . 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